I won't buy this but I like it.

"My citroen won't start" (lucasboechat) 01/21/2015 at 16:40 • Filed to: None

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What does Oppo think? I have never seen a used car this clean, 2001 Volvo S80 Bi-turbo with only 22k miles, price is a bit steep even for Brazilian standards but I could see myself buying this if I wasn't getting the S8 or replacing the C5 in a couple years. (Actual pictures are on the link)

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bob and john > My citroen won't start 01/21/2015 at 16:43

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V6.

uhhhh. no.

For Sweden > My citroen won't start 01/21/2015 at 16:44

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I have the non-turbo version. The car is fantastic, but the transmission is a big weak spot.

My citroen won't start > bob and john 01/21/2015 at 16:45

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Haha that really bothers me, but I don't blame the seller, the site has pre-determined names for all the cars.

505Turbeaux > For Sweden 01/21/2015 at 16:47

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what For Sweden said

My citroen won't start > For Sweden 01/21/2015 at 16:47

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EL-ULY said something about it once, what's wrong with it?

bob and john > My citroen won't start 01/21/2015 at 16:48

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does it also label all BMWs as V6s?

MultiplaOrgasms > bob and john 01/21/2015 at 16:49

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Then again, this is about the only transverse FWD I6 in existence other than the Leyland Princess.

EL_ULY > My citroen won't start 01/21/2015 at 16:50

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GM trans didn't hold out too well and the OEM rebuilds we sell are not too great either :( Some do last though. There is always exemptions in the car world

My citroen won't start > bob and john 01/21/2015 at 16:51

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Huh, no it says they are either "I6" or "6 cylinder"

For Sweden > My citroen won't start 01/21/2015 at 16:51

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They're just weak; in most markets the S80 used a GM transmission from a Polish Opel factory, and they failed often compared to other cars. Some markets received S80s with Japanese transmissions, and I think they fared better. I'm not sure which transmission Brazil received.

bob and john > My citroen won't start 01/21/2015 at 16:52

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exactly!

also, from what I understand, those (early 2000s) S80 had transmission issues.

My citroen won't start > EL_ULY 01/21/2015 at 16:57

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This guy collects cars so I assume he took good care of it and it also very low mileage, could this be one exemption haha?

My citroen won't start > For Sweden 01/21/2015 at 16:58

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I think we got the 5 speed, don't know if they are the Opel or Japanese ones?

jkm7680 > My citroen won't start 01/21/2015 at 17:00

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As others have said, the transmissions were Doo-Doo.

For Sweden > My citroen won't start 01/21/2015 at 17:05

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The 5 speed is Japanese (Aisin). I think they're OK, but definitely check the local forums.

RallyWrench > My citroen won't start 01/21/2015 at 17:06

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Nope. The NA B6294 is ok, but in my experience the twin turbos are awful, with myriad heat & boost related issues, including head gasket problems. As others have also noted, the transmissions are famously weak. Front suspension bushings & mounts are also weak points. At least the miles are low (assuming odometer accuracy unless instrument cluster has been replaced), so if you absolutely fall in love with it you might not have any real issues for a couple of years.

EL_ULY > My citroen won't start 01/21/2015 at 17:15

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it's a toss up really. The AISIN wasn't offered in the US S80's. That was a really good trans.

I Do It For Miatas, NC Owner > bob and john 01/21/2015 at 17:16

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Having "transmission issues" is a massive understatement. The transmission is a ticking time bomb, and is usually the downfall of these cars. The NA i6 is fine though! And it's such a great engine, super smooth and sounds incredible on WOT

Alex B > My citroen won't start 01/21/2015 at 17:29

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But is it armored?

My citroen won't start > Alex B 01/22/2015 at 00:04

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Unfortunately not

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > My citroen won't start 01/22/2015 at 01:28

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I asked Oppo about one of these when I was first looking for a car. They told be the turbos, and more importantly the tranny, had a habit of grinding themselves well before 100k.